tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8285353362748898720.post7465666125284980910..comments2024-03-28T06:53:24.022-05:00Comments on a blog about school: Oscar round-upChrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12919030671050831251noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8285353362748898720.post-1706041242328357752011-03-01T21:40:45.117-06:002011-03-01T21:40:45.117-06:00Chris...what has changed...it seems like at some p...Chris...what has changed...it seems like at some point we assume that kids who come from poverty are destined for failure.<br /><br />I went to a religious based school for 12 years, so I have no experience as a public school student to draw on. I guess I once had some sort of naive notion that public education was supposed to be an equalizer of sorts.<br /><br />I don't see PBIS as necessarily harmful, but I do see it as a waste of time that takes attention from what the schools should really be doing. Did the schools of years ago have systems like that?KDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07883213697051461818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8285353362748898720.post-91129562599394573732011-02-28T21:32:22.178-06:002011-02-28T21:32:22.178-06:00FedUpMom -- Ha, I didn't mean for that comment...FedUpMom -- Ha, I didn't mean for that comment to sound as argumentative as it did. I need some more argumentative commenters, so I can take it easier on friendly ones like Indie and Stoz!Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12919030671050831251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8285353362748898720.post-38862827904063680292011-02-28T20:41:03.814-06:002011-02-28T20:41:03.814-06:00I think Stoz is saying that if the bottom 80% beco...I think Stoz is saying that if the bottom 80% become too obedient, the top 1% will steal everything, and the whole pie will go blue. <br /><br />Loosely speaking, I think he/she's on your side, Chris. And I agree with you both!FedUpMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00951858601020687242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8285353362748898720.post-2452794063417169952011-02-28T16:23:23.677-06:002011-02-28T16:23:23.677-06:00KD -- I agree that things have changed, and not fo...KD -- I agree that things have changed, and not for the better. What changes in particular are you thinking of?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12919030671050831251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8285353362748898720.post-42279631120613707032011-02-28T16:19:52.390-06:002011-02-28T16:19:52.390-06:00Some related thoughts here.Some related thoughts <a href="http://ablogaboutschool.blogspot.com/2010/07/education-wont-make-poverty-go-away.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12919030671050831251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8285353362748898720.post-81611119276549907412011-02-28T13:44:39.218-06:002011-02-28T13:44:39.218-06:00Stoz -- Purely as a mathematical matter, the pie c...Stoz -- Purely as a mathematical matter, the pie cannot be all blue. A bluer pie would just mean that the wealth disparity between the richest one percent and everyone else was even greater.<br /><br />But, yes, there's always the possibility that turning our schools into obedience schools will help the poorer students get richer. I would just say that "there's always the possibility it will work" is an awfully low standard to apply to public policy claims, especially ones that seem particularly likely to advance the interests of people other than their ostensible beneficiaries.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12919030671050831251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8285353362748898720.post-8954483436394664362011-02-28T12:08:33.438-06:002011-02-28T12:08:33.438-06:00Of course, there's always the possibility that...Of course, there's always the possibility that if the yellow and orange slice people become too obedient, the pie will just be all blue. Not that it's a problem for those in the blue slice, but...Seth Costerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14593463506257818030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8285353362748898720.post-45778961395239966712011-02-28T12:05:11.780-06:002011-02-28T12:05:11.780-06:00I haven't seen either movie. My impression of...I haven't seen either movie. My impression of Waiting for Superman is that the schools profiled in the movie have little accountability to the communities they serve. <br /><br />Both my parents and my in-laws experienced periods of major poverty growing up. I think something has changed between now and then with regards to our schools operate.KDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07883213697051461818noreply@blogger.com