It’s a free country, and Eisele can run her site however she wants. But if she’s going to make accusations, she ought to at least link, so people can judge for themselves. By “contacting the employer of a person,” for example, I can only assume she is referring to this. Yes, if you write to the school district to disagree with something I said, I do have the right to respond, even if you are a school district employee.
As for “personal attacks” and “blatant lies,” maybe some links please? Reminder: It’s not a “personal attack” to disagree strongly with positions that people have publicly taken, and it’s not a “blatant lie” to say something that other people disagree with—especially since this is a publicly viewable site and anyone is free to post a response to anything I say here. When I get things wrong here, I’m happy to correct them (example here), but it helps if someone lets me know.
When I say something here, I say it front of everyone, and anyone can respond to it. Eisele makes her accusations on her members-only site, without substantiating them, and shields herself and her readers from any response from the people she’s accusing. Which approach is fairer? Which approach is likely to lead to a more informed discussion?
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Facebook is a site. She manages a Facebook "page" and "group".
Ha -- thanks, Pooter. I don't have the lingo down yet.
I know a locally prominent school district mom who does all kinds of nasty stuff, and nope, I'm not talking about myself I'm talking about the one that tried to lure me into exposing Jeff McGinness's legal issues with honesty in Court, and outside of it, before he had even been found "guilty" as the case may be of it. I said nope, wouldn't be outing that to the Press Citizen though she tried, and tried to talk me into doing it and then I told her I would be warning Mr. McGinness about it because, even though he is an ass and a half, that is what I would want if someone was talking about doing something so underhanded to me when I had not been found "guilty" of something...I did, and he stabbed me in the back over it during and after I was so considerate of what I wished to do so he could prepare and protect his family from it...I did not ask him if he'd done it and in fact told him I didn't want to know anything about it though he insisted on telling me that what he had done was nothing unusual and thought I would laugh about it along with him if he told me what it was, I again declined to know what he had supposedly done, and, when it finally hit the Gazette nearly a year later or so, and I talked to him on the phone when he called me on that day too, I did not find what he had done, having now found out what that was, well, shall we say the smallest part of it anyway, in the Gazette, funny AT ALL. If not representing your client's best interests after one fails to perform well on their behalf by manufacturing evidence to hide that and blaming the opposing attorney in relation to that falsified evidence, implicating your apparently unknowing secretary in that falsified evidence concoction, and then lying to a judge in court are funny or not unusual to him, I think he needs to have his head examined and should likely have lost his IA license to practice law for much longer than 6 months, but hell, that's just my moral standards on such things but apparently not his. Oh, and the locally prominent mother who tried to get me to "out" Mr. McGinness simply based on what was at that time just rumor...yeah, she's the former and likely again future co-PTO President of Iowa City, City High...and that pressure she put on me to "out" McGinness, oh, um, yeah, that one thing is just the tip of the iceberg...but then she does this crap and plays holier than thou. Oh, did I also mention that her former nickname for, and mind you I employ nicknames myself but usually they are a more esoterically symbolic pun of sorts, current board president Lynch was "Lumpneck"...yes, she's a very sweet woman who screamed at me from her seat, "SIT DOWN" and can be seen doing so on the video of the meeting when I went to the mic to request an opportunity to defend myself against Mr. McGinness's personal attack on my by name from the board table filled with all kinds of slander that he never even had the courtesy to ask me about before he, in my opinion, misused his board directors seat and mic to do so...you know, after I warned him of her request about a year before that so that he could prepare himself and his family for what was to come.
Hi Chris, Julie Eisele use to comment on the PC comment boards as "Eastsideparent" which she and I discussed and made truce over the first time I met with her for lunch after she had been behaving a little more considerately for a period of time. I have many, many of her quoted comments from the PC etc. This is one of them that follows. How does it measure up to her alleged holiness' reason for blocking people from the Discuss group she hijacked under pretty much the same name as the one I started and took down after she gave me an ultimatum I declined? Um, and I’ve never “asked” to be admitted to her new clique nor would I foresee myself wanting to be there.
Eastsideparent, "Frankly I think Hills should redistrict itself to another district. The ICCSD does not, in my opinion, care much about Hills and is well aware that this group does not have much power. Hills is far away and the elementary school is so small - with a lot of special resource need and no hope for expansion or bringing more students in from elsewhere - that it has become a financial albatross. I am not saying I agree with the treatment but I am trying to be realistic. When you are part of a group that is fairly powerless and you are essentially a financial liability, it's time to start looking at your options.”
At the time, this battle was the first that I ever commented on in the boards and I followed suit of most commenters there at that time of using a nickname per se...even so, I included part of my name in it because that seemed more honest. Here was my reply to her above comment, you know, cause she's so holy and I only say unspeakable horriblenesses, hahahahaha.
I replied to her above comment, "What an unnecessary, spiteful thing for you to say. Hills/Hills Bank gave a 1.5 million school, largest check on the board wall, and another at the last meeting. Other than taxes we all pay, what has your neighborhood gifted to ICCSD lately? If we don’t matter and we’re small, what more reason to keep collecting our money and send us to schools we’re closest to?"
Oh, did I also mention that her former nickname for, and mind you I employ nicknames myself but usually they are a more esoterically symbolic pun of sorts, current board president Lynch was "Lumpneck"...yes, she's a very sweet woman who screamed at me from her seat, "SIT DOWN" and can be seen doing so on the video of the meeting when I went to the mic to request an opportunity to defend myself against Mr. McGinness's personal attack on my by name from the board table filled with all kinds of slander that he never even had the courtesy to ask me about before he, in my opinion, misused his board director seat and mic to do so...you know, after I warned him of Julie Eisele's request to me, well, hell, pressuring of me to out his legal troubles which were at that time only a rumor, which I refused to do. Instead, about a year before that he attacked me at the mic, when Julie Eisele tried to pressure me to out Jeff's troubles that she told me about to Press Citizen reporter Adam Sullivan, I refused to do so. To do something like that was an unconscionable act when based simply on rumor at that time. I told her that not only would I NOT do that, I told her I would call him to warn him of a rumor that was going about and I did so for the sole reason to give him at least a little time to prepare himself and his family for what was to come if someone else, perhaps even at Julie Eisele's request did such a thing after I refused.
The group you reference in your blog entry is the one she hijacked from the original "Discuss" group I created on facebook, I entered, I built, when she then built or had someone else build a slightly, ever so slightly different named new group after I took down the one I created and had allowed her to ride along with on while she was exhibiting better behavior, i.e., not abusing people with it or her comments in the Press Citizen etc. She created Discuss II based on the name of the one that I had originally filled with friends, and was the primary administrator of, after I refused admittance to her personal buddy, the former president of the DPO who seems very ingratiated with current district administration and politicians and is now running for school board. Goodness me, now that I think of it, wasn't that same person the former PTO President at "real Hoover" who strangely enough didn't do much to help fight the district's attempts to close it?
Oh, and did I mention that Julie Eisele, the former DPO President I refused to admit to the previous Discuss group, which contained no district administrators or board directors, and Paul Roesler, the alleged man who accused me of interrupting him at the mic over a year ago, though I made not a sound. Yep, standing right outside the board meeting a couple back along with the man who I can see in the video of that meeting making an exaggerated stretch and groaning noise at that moment from his seat partway back in the board room that night were all chatting, looking like old friends, outside the district administration after a recent board meeting, cause that's not a cabal...Chris, the shit that goes on here is so deep there isn't a shovel big enough...and I have ever so many print screens, pictures, emails, messages of many kinds, audios, and more that show just how deep it is.
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